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		<title>By: thesambarnes</title>
		<link>http://www.thesambarnes.com/web-project-management/record-your-web-project-management-meetings/#comment-1558</link>
		<dc:creator>thesambarnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Adam, that sounds like a pretty good tip too, especially when dealing with clients that like to babble :) or ones that are a bit flakey :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adam, that sounds like a pretty good tip too, especially when dealing with clients that like to babble :) or ones that are a bit flakey :)</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Gerthel</title>
		<link>http://www.thesambarnes.com/web-project-management/record-your-web-project-management-meetings/#comment-1553</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Gerthel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like a good approach. Like you say, it&#039;s probably not always suitable, but it&#039;s probably not too hard to spot when it&#039;s not appropriate. 

I always try to send an mail within an hour of a meeting, as a sum up of everything that&#039;s been discussed. It helps both me and the client get 30-60 min talk boiled down to a few sentences and bullet points. Not only do you remind the client of what was decided, you also avoid miscommunication. Even though the client may just browse through the email, it can still act as a sort of evidence for them. So if you actually did miss something, your client may not bring it up later on because he realizes that you didn&#039;t mention it in the e-mail which makes them feel guilty for not reading it :)

It may sound harsh, but some clients are babbling a lot, and getting things in b/w can be very effective - as well as professional.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a good approach. Like you say, it&#8217;s probably not always suitable, but it&#8217;s probably not too hard to spot when it&#8217;s not appropriate. </p>
<p>I always try to send an mail within an hour of a meeting, as a sum up of everything that&#8217;s been discussed. It helps both me and the client get 30-60 min talk boiled down to a few sentences and bullet points. Not only do you remind the client of what was decided, you also avoid miscommunication. Even though the client may just browse through the email, it can still act as a sort of evidence for them. So if you actually did miss something, your client may not bring it up later on because he realizes that you didn&#8217;t mention it in the e-mail which makes them feel guilty for not reading it :)</p>
<p>It may sound harsh, but some clients are babbling a lot, and getting things in b/w can be very effective &#8211; as well as professional.</p>
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		<title>By: thesambarnes</title>
		<link>http://www.thesambarnes.com/web-project-management/record-your-web-project-management-meetings/#comment-1386</link>
		<dc:creator>thesambarnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 18:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Peter, that&#039;s a really great, but subtle, client management technique I hadn&#039;t really considered as ana advantage on recording meeting!!! Plus the &quot;corporate therapist&quot; title is genius :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter, that&#8217;s a really great, but subtle, client management technique I hadn&#8217;t really considered as ana advantage on recording meeting!!! Plus the &#8220;corporate therapist&#8221; title is genius :)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter M</title>
		<link>http://www.thesambarnes.com/web-project-management/record-your-web-project-management-meetings/#comment-1380</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 05:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been doing this for consulting gigs and it really helps to transport me back to the conversation. When I arrive at the followup meeting and say, &quot;The last time we met, we discussed the following issues...wanted to make sure we&#039;re still aligned.&quot; This usually makes the client feel like I know what I&#039;m doing and the money they are paying me justified.

I also look at it as capturing the sand that falls between the fingers — conveying tone, urgency and perhaps insecurity or indecisiveness on the part  of the client. These are all tools of the corporate therapist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been doing this for consulting gigs and it really helps to transport me back to the conversation. When I arrive at the followup meeting and say, &#8220;The last time we met, we discussed the following issues&#8230;wanted to make sure we&#8217;re still aligned.&#8221; This usually makes the client feel like I know what I&#8217;m doing and the money they are paying me justified.</p>
<p>I also look at it as capturing the sand that falls between the fingers — conveying tone, urgency and perhaps insecurity or indecisiveness on the part  of the client. These are all tools of the corporate therapist.</p>
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		<title>By: thesambarnes</title>
		<link>http://www.thesambarnes.com/web-project-management/record-your-web-project-management-meetings/#comment-1370</link>
		<dc:creator>thesambarnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 13:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Dina, glad you liked it, and yes, it really works!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dina, glad you liked it, and yes, it really works!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dina</title>
		<link>http://www.thesambarnes.com/web-project-management/record-your-web-project-management-meetings/#comment-1369</link>
		<dc:creator>Dina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 03:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post Sam!
This has really given me something to think about...never recorded a meeting before but sounds like a great strategy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Sam!<br />
This has really given me something to think about&#8230;never recorded a meeting before but sounds like a great strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: thesambarnes</title>
		<link>http://www.thesambarnes.com/web-project-management/record-your-web-project-management-meetings/#comment-1347</link>
		<dc:creator>thesambarnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 15:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Belle, oh this is not an iOS app but an actual fat pen!! Woah, will check this out for sure!

@Steven, I&#039;ll also give this a whirl, thanks for the suggestion :-)

@Cola, reply here and let us know how Audio Note worked for you ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Belle, oh this is not an iOS app but an actual fat pen!! Woah, will check this out for sure!</p>
<p>@Steven, I&#8217;ll also give this a whirl, thanks for the suggestion :-)</p>
<p>@Cola, reply here and let us know how Audio Note worked for you ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Li</title>
		<link>http://www.thesambarnes.com/web-project-management/record-your-web-project-management-meetings/#comment-1344</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 10:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I use an ipad app call Meeting Recorder.  It is very easy to record what everyone says just by tapping on the name or agenda.  Playback is easy too with its filter function.   But it needs function enhancements such as whiteboard or places to enter resolutions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use an ipad app call Meeting Recorder.  It is very easy to record what everyone says just by tapping on the name or agenda.  Playback is easy too with its filter function.   But it needs function enhancements such as whiteboard or places to enter resolutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Belle Liu</title>
		<link>http://www.thesambarnes.com/web-project-management/record-your-web-project-management-meetings/#comment-1342</link>
		<dc:creator>Belle Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 11:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Try the Pulse Pen from Livescribe, it&#039;s a life saver for me so far because it captures both the audio and notes at the same time, so when I play it back I can jump back and forth and locate the exact bits I need easily. Not to mention the notes are searchable too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try the Pulse Pen from Livescribe, it&#8217;s a life saver for me so far because it captures both the audio and notes at the same time, so when I play it back I can jump back and forth and locate the exact bits I need easily. Not to mention the notes are searchable too.</p>
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		<title>By: Cola</title>
		<link>http://www.thesambarnes.com/web-project-management/record-your-web-project-management-meetings/#comment-1338</link>
		<dc:creator>Cola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 06:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey just downloaded Audio Note. Do you know if it has a max. record length? I&#039;m running two workshops next week and going to try this gem out.    

Got any Brut?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey just downloaded Audio Note. Do you know if it has a max. record length? I&#8217;m running two workshops next week and going to try this gem out.    </p>
<p>Got any Brut?</p>
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		<title>By: thesambarnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>thesambarnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 12:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Benoit, that was ONE time!!! :)

@Dave, absolutely! At least you don&#039;t sound like you&#039;re some kind of cockney half-breed from Slough. When I listen back I literally cannot believe people trust me to do &#039;business&#039; things.

To me I sound like someone I&#039;d expect to be selling aftershave out of a suitcase oa London high street.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Benoit, that was ONE time!!! :)</p>
<p>@Dave, absolutely! At least you don&#8217;t sound like you&#8217;re some kind of cockney half-breed from Slough. When I listen back I literally cannot believe people trust me to do &#8216;business&#8217; things.</p>
<p>To me I sound like someone I&#8217;d expect to be selling aftershave out of a suitcase oa London high street.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rhodes</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rhodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 14:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, just listening to a recording now and I can&#039;t stand the way I sound. Makes me cringe so much I struggle to get through the whole recording!

You get that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, just listening to a recording now and I can&#8217;t stand the way I sound. Makes me cringe so much I struggle to get through the whole recording!</p>
<p>You get that?</p>
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		<title>By: Benoit</title>
		<link>http://www.thesambarnes.com/web-project-management/record-your-web-project-management-meetings/#comment-1331</link>
		<dc:creator>Benoit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 11:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is great. All you need is to remember you recorded it :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great. All you need is to remember you recorded it :)</p>
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		<title>By: thesambarnes</title>
		<link>http://www.thesambarnes.com/web-project-management/record-your-web-project-management-meetings/#comment-1327</link>
		<dc:creator>thesambarnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 22:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Dean, thanks... I guess if you understand a million others do!! Always a risk when posting that you find out it&#039;s just you :)

Evernote - I remember crowding round a Mac when that was released, all gasping at the OCR and holding book after book up at the cam heh... but yeah impressive, and again I envy anyone who can use a tablet as an effective note taking method in complex meetings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dean, thanks&#8230; I guess if you understand a million others do!! Always a risk when posting that you find out it&#8217;s just you :)</p>
<p>Evernote &#8211; I remember crowding round a Mac when that was released, all gasping at the OCR and holding book after book up at the cam heh&#8230; but yeah impressive, and again I envy anyone who can use a tablet as an effective note taking method in complex meetings.</p>
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		<title>By: thesambarnes</title>
		<link>http://www.thesambarnes.com/web-project-management/record-your-web-project-management-meetings/#comment-1326</link>
		<dc:creator>thesambarnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 22:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Dave, heh yeah I bet the iPad gets a lot of &quot;ooooos&quot; and &quot;ahhhhs&quot;. I also bet they then proceed to have a go and you pray they dont click on the Mail icon - Apple should consider the side switch being able to quickly turning on a &quot;let someone play with your toy&quot; mode!!!!

I&#039;d love to be able to get along with something like Audionote, I was so excited to try it out - but it just distracted me as much as trying to write... like you I ended up just using the recording facility so thought why not just revert to my trusty old voice recorder.

But oh yes!!! I too have realised how a decent stylus and handwriting-to-text feature would literally be amazing. 

Does Bowsh&#039;s stylus seem responsive though? Ive tried one and it kind of lagged a little behind, not to sound ungrateful at the amazing tech behind it, but enough to make it seem way more cumbersome than a pen... I could only write something legible if it was huge letters - am I just a spaz?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave, heh yeah I bet the iPad gets a lot of &#8220;ooooos&#8221; and &#8220;ahhhhs&#8221;. I also bet they then proceed to have a go and you pray they dont click on the Mail icon &#8211; Apple should consider the side switch being able to quickly turning on a &#8220;let someone play with your toy&#8221; mode!!!!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to be able to get along with something like Audionote, I was so excited to try it out &#8211; but it just distracted me as much as trying to write&#8230; like you I ended up just using the recording facility so thought why not just revert to my trusty old voice recorder.</p>
<p>But oh yes!!! I too have realised how a decent stylus and handwriting-to-text feature would literally be amazing. </p>
<p>Does Bowsh&#8217;s stylus seem responsive though? Ive tried one and it kind of lagged a little behind, not to sound ungrateful at the amazing tech behind it, but enough to make it seem way more cumbersome than a pen&#8230; I could only write something legible if it was huge letters &#8211; am I just a spaz?</p>
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		<title>By: thesambarnes</title>
		<link>http://www.thesambarnes.com/web-project-management/record-your-web-project-management-meetings/#comment-1325</link>
		<dc:creator>thesambarnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 22:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Cola, I&#039;ll never go back and listen to them as such, simply start my related action, like a functional spec, with headphones on and start to capture key bullets points that must be included.

If one particular point is long and complex, I&#039;ll write it out in a bit more depth, then carry on with the bullet point approach.

Generally by the time I&#039;ve done listening to the meeting again I&#039;ve captured all the important parts and can just get writing at speed.

Yes it appears like a slow start, and it is, but once done you can practically write non-stop, knowing you&#039;ve captured every bit of detail accurately first time - definite time saver in the long run.

I guess you could argue this is just &#039;note taking&#039; as you should in the meeting... but when a client is talking me through their six staged authorisation process workflow, with all the business-specific rules they&#039;ve adopted over the years - well - I challenge anyone to capture that first time!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cola, I&#8217;ll never go back and listen to them as such, simply start my related action, like a functional spec, with headphones on and start to capture key bullets points that must be included.</p>
<p>If one particular point is long and complex, I&#8217;ll write it out in a bit more depth, then carry on with the bullet point approach.</p>
<p>Generally by the time I&#8217;ve done listening to the meeting again I&#8217;ve captured all the important parts and can just get writing at speed.</p>
<p>Yes it appears like a slow start, and it is, but once done you can practically write non-stop, knowing you&#8217;ve captured every bit of detail accurately first time &#8211; definite time saver in the long run.</p>
<p>I guess you could argue this is just &#8216;note taking&#8217; as you should in the meeting&#8230; but when a client is talking me through their six staged authorisation process workflow, with all the business-specific rules they&#8217;ve adopted over the years &#8211; well &#8211; I challenge anyone to capture that first time!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Flynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 22:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice article Sam, always on the lookout for time savers and completely agree about immersing yourself in the meeting only to find that notes taken make no sense whatsoever when you review them. 

Another app for people to consider is Evernote for those on iOS. It&#039;s my all in one, voice recording, whiteboard snapshot taking and note taking app. It OCR&#039;s your whiteboards to let you find words scribbled on them when searching too (depending on the legibility of your scribble).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article Sam, always on the lookout for time savers and completely agree about immersing yourself in the meeting only to find that notes taken make no sense whatsoever when you review them. </p>
<p>Another app for people to consider is Evernote for those on iOS. It&#8217;s my all in one, voice recording, whiteboard snapshot taking and note taking app. It OCR&#8217;s your whiteboards to let you find words scribbled on them when searching too (depending on the legibility of your scribble).</p>
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		<title>By: David Rhodes</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rhodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 21:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Sam, since getting the iPad I&#039;ve used audionote a lot and it is fantastic. You don&#039;t really have to take notes and I simply use it as a voice recorder. If you do need to make a note then it is time stamped against the audio. 

Although now wearing off a little, the novelty of someone bringing an iPad to the meeting and recording the audio also helps with the acceptance on the client side. Initially it was the opening 10 minutes of my recordings taken up with iPad discussions. 

Someone at Rawnet (Bowsh) recently bought a stylus so I&#039;m now in search of the app that has handwriting recognition as well as audio recordings. 

However, completely agree, would never dream of a client meeting without asking to record any more!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sam, since getting the iPad I&#8217;ve used audionote a lot and it is fantastic. You don&#8217;t really have to take notes and I simply use it as a voice recorder. If you do need to make a note then it is time stamped against the audio. </p>
<p>Although now wearing off a little, the novelty of someone bringing an iPad to the meeting and recording the audio also helps with the acceptance on the client side. Initially it was the opening 10 minutes of my recordings taken up with iPad discussions. </p>
<p>Someone at Rawnet (Bowsh) recently bought a stylus so I&#8217;m now in search of the app that has handwriting recognition as well as audio recordings. </p>
<p>However, completely agree, would never dream of a client meeting without asking to record any more!</p>
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		<title>By: Cola Richmond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cola Richmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 20:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, this is an epiphany!  I obviously use them for for interviews and workshops... but hadn&#039;t thought about meetings ... good one.

It&#039;s finding the time to go back over and listen to them that&#039;s the drag but then again, so is trying to decipher what the hell I&#039;ve written, days afterwards.  

Must check out the iPad aps you suggest - cheers pal!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is an epiphany!  I obviously use them for for interviews and workshops&#8230; but hadn&#8217;t thought about meetings &#8230; good one.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s finding the time to go back over and listen to them that&#8217;s the drag but then again, so is trying to decipher what the hell I&#8217;ve written, days afterwards.  </p>
<p>Must check out the iPad aps you suggest &#8211; cheers pal!</p>
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